Guests: Arto O. Salonen, Professor, University of Eastern Finland, Member of the Sustainable Development Expert Panel and Toni Paloheimo, Change Consultant, CGI

The episode will consider the touchpoints of change and what kind of change in mindset it requires so that we do not live in the continuum of the past. Activism requires direction, but first we must understand that change is possible. What different and more sustainable well-being would concretely mean for people and companies in our society. Changes challenge or even question leadership. How would we know how to lead selflessly, thinking about the direction and goals 50 years from now. What should we understand from this today and what actions should we take to achieve these intergenerational goals?

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